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Dr. Shannon Flumerfelt, Founder of Charactership Lean Consulting and Endowed Professor of Lean at Oakland University, joined host Jamie Flinchbaugh to discuss her systematic approach to coaching leaders through difficult situations and complex problem-solving challenges.
Dr. Flumerfelt shared her framework for handling difficult coaching situations, which begins with understanding whether the challenge stems from external factors or internal issues. She explains that external problems—such as skill gaps or training needs—are often easier to address through coaching and mentoring. However, internal challenges require a deeper analysis using what she calls the “head, heart, and hands” approach: examining a person’s knowledge, disposition, and actual capabilities.
When faced with complex situations, Dr. Flumerfelt advocates for creating an Ishikawa diagram to break down all contributing factors. She emphasizes the power of co-creating these visual tools with clients, noting that self-reflection becomes most powerful when people can see their challenges mapped out concretely. This approach helps remove emotional drama from the situation and enables more logical, analytical thinking while still respecting people’s feelings and perspectives.
Regarding prioritization when multiple problems exist, she stresses that the approach must be organic and context-dependent, true to lean principles. She suggests several methods for determining where to start: ensuring strategic alignment with organizational goals through Hoshin Kanri planning, conducting quality function deployment analysis to understand customer requirements, or using Pareto analysis to tackle the most significant causes first. However, she cautions that sometimes the biggest problems are beyond an individual’s scope of influence, requiring a more realistic assessment of what can be accomplished.
Dr. Flumerfelt also recommends using interrelationship diagrams to identify which issues have the most connections to other problems, as addressing these can create the greatest ripple effect of positive change. The key is understanding your level of power, influence, and authority within the organization and working within those realistic boundaries.
When discussing how to tap into people’s intuition alongside analytical tools, she acknowledges that lean thinking often appears heavily engineering-focused and black-and-white. However, she emphasizes that successful lean implementation requires understanding the complete framework of lean thinking, not just selecting individual tools. She advocates for using personality assessments like Myers-Briggs to understand team members’ strengths and whether they tend toward intuitive or logical approaches.
She highlights the concept of social capital as a competitive advantage, referencing Michael Porter’s work. She believes organizations drastically underutilize their human potential, comparing it to how individuals only use a small percentage of their brain capacity. When you multiply underutilized brains across an entire organization, the untapped potential becomes enormous. This perspective drives her approach to individualizing and customizing development for each person, recognizing that people aren’t robots and have unique strengths and weaknesses that deserve respect.
Throughout the conversation, the importance of visual management tools and moving beyond just thinking or journaling to drawing out and visualizing problems and solutions was emphasized. This structured approach helps transform messy, complex situations into manageable challenges that can be systematically addressed.
For those interested in experiencing her approach firsthand, Dr. Flumerfelt offers consulting services through Charactership Lean Consulting and teaches in Oakland University’s graduate Lean Leadership program—a rare opportunity in higher education. To learn more about Dr. Flumerfelt’s work, visit charactershiplean.org or connect with her on LinkedIn
Flawed Harmony and the Consensus Trap
Leaders love to tout consensus decision-making. It sounds collaborative, inclusive, and wise. Many will even claim they “lead through consensus,” whether it’s true or not. But consensus fails more often than it succeeds, either because it’s executed poorly or applied in the wrong situations. Here are the most common failure modes that derail consensus and how to avoid them.
I once worked with a leader who was frustrated with his team’s problem-solving process. “I’m coaching them, but they aren’t reaching the right solution,” he complained. When I asked why he delegated the decision if he already knew the answer, he admitted the truth: he wanted his team to feel invested, and consensus would achieve that.
This wasn’t consensus. It was consensus theater.
If you need to own a decision, own it. Don’t disguise control as collaboration. Your team will see through the charade, and fake empowerment damages trust far more than straightforward decisiveness. True consensus means genuinely being open to outcomes you didn’t anticipate.
The most dangerous consensus processes lack a clear fallback when agreement proves impossible. Without a safety valve, teams can spiral into endless debate or, worse, make no decision at all.
The simplest safety valve is this: if the team can’t reach consensus, the leader decides. This motivates collaboration while ensuring progress. Even in cross functional teams, a designated sponsor should fill this role.
Alternatively, establish a default outcome that’s equally unsatisfying to all parties. If your children can’t agree on a restaurant, they get to eat chicken at home. Suddenly, they find consensus remarkably achievable. Government budget processes work similarly. Failure to agree triggers automatic spending cuts or shutdowns that motivate compromise.
The key is establishing these defaults before starting the consensus process, not scrambling to create them when discussions stall. Then you are trying to get consensus about consensus.
Many consensus processes inadvertently hand veto power to any individual who simply says “no” or drags their feet. This shifts focus from potential rewards to possible risks, since there’s always something that could go wrong with any decision.
Harley Davidson learned this lesson the hard way. Their “Circles” (cross functional leadership groups) were designed to build consensus on key decisions. But without mechanisms to break ties or override holdouts, decision making slowed to a crawl. The company became risk averse precisely when they needed boldness. Competitors with faster, more decisive processes began outflanking them in the market.
The pocket veto turns consensus into a tool for maintaining the status quo rather than driving progress.
Consensus can become a refuge for leaders who fear making difficult decisions. Teams get trapped in endless cycles of discussion, research, and “further consideration.” Everyone stays busy, meetings proliferate, but decisions never emerge. There is one more question, one more person to weigh in, or one more data point to explore.
This failure mode often masquerades as thoroughness or inclusivity, but frequently it’s actually avoidance. Real consensus requires a bias toward action and clear deadlines for reaching agreement.
Consensus can create powerful engagement and ownership, but only when it produces better decisions. Some organizations become so enamored with the collaborative process that they lose sight of results. This would be like a sporting coach saying we played well, but just didn’t get the win. That’s fine for a single game, but not if you lose 10 in a row.
If your consensus driven decisions consistently underperform those made through other methods, don’t celebrate the process. Fix what’s broken. Sometimes that means improving how you build consensus. Sometimes it means recognizing that certain decisions aren’t suited to consensus at all.
The Path Forward
Done well, consensus decision making creates genuine buy in and leverages collective wisdom. But it requires discipline, clear processes, and honest assessment of when it’s the right tool for the job.
Before defaulting to consensus, ask yourself these questions: Do you genuinely want input that might change your mind? Is this decision complex enough to benefit from multiple perspectives? Do you have time for the process? If any answer is no, choose a different approach.
Consensus isn’t inherently superior to other decision making methods. It’s simply one tool in your leadership toolkit. Use it thoughtfully, execute it skillfully, and measure it by the results it produces.
Budgeting Doesn’t Have to Crush Your Soul
Most people dread budgeting because they’re approaching it with the wrong goals entirely. Instead of trying to create the “perfect” forecast or simply survive the process with minimal pushback, what if budgeting could actually become a strategic advantage? There’s a counterintuitive mindset shift that transforms this painful annual ritual into something far more valuable—but it requires letting go of our obsession with being right and embracing something most finance teams actively avoid.
The approach involves a specific framework and set of practices that turn inevitable budget variances into competitive intelligence about your business. Rather than treating gaps between plan and reality as failures to explain away, you’ll develop a systematic method for extracting maximum learning from every deviation. In our current environment of unprecedented uncertainty and rapid market shifts, this learning-centered approach isn’t just helpful—it’s essential for organizations that want to adapt faster than their competition while everyone else is still trying to predict the unpredictable.
People Solve Problems PodcastPeople Solve Problem Podcast are approximately 20-minutes conversations with thought leaders, business leaders, change agents, practitioners, and more from a wide swatch of perspectives talking about different aspects of problem solving. You’ll learn different frameworks, tips and tricks, perspectives, leadership approaches, principles and more. This podcast is available publicly but the videos are included here for easy and early access.
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Dynamic Work Design with Nelson Repenning & Don Kieffer![]() |
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Nelson Repenning and Don Kieffer joined host Jamie Flinchbaugh to discuss their collaborative book “There’s Got to Be a Better Way” and their approach to dynamic work design. Nelson Repenning is the School of Management Distinguished Professor at the MIT Sloan School of Management, while Don Kieffer is a senior lecturer in operations management at MIT Sloan and founder of ShiftGear Work Design. Their partnership represents a unique blend of academic rigor and practical factory floor experience spanning nearly three decades.
The conversation began with personal connections, as Jamie noted his long history working with Don during transformation efforts at companies like Harley-Davidson, and his experience as one of Nelson’s first students in systems dynamics at MIT. Don shared how Jamie helped translate complex manufacturing concepts into accessible language during their work at Harley-Davidson.
The guests explained how their five core principles evolved through years of teaching and practical application. Nelson compared their development process to a stand-up comedian perfecting their act, starting with rough material and refining it through constant testing. The five principles they developed are: solve the right problem, structure for discovery, connect the human chain, regulate for flow, and visualize the work.
When discussing the challenge of solving the right problem, Nelson referenced Daniel Kahneman’s work on conscious versus automatic thinking. He explained how people often revert to automatic processing under pressure, making structured problem-solving methods essential. Don emphasized how experienced problem solvers can jump to solutions too quickly, bypassing the crucial step of properly defining the problem.
The principle of structuring for discovery addresses why organizations should welcome more visible problems rather than hiding them. Don explained that problems reveal weaknesses in systems and create opportunities for innovation and stability. Nelson added that instead of helping people understand complex environments, they focus on structuring environments to be cleaner and more manageable.
Regarding connecting the human chain, Nelson emphasized that humans excel at processing uncertainty and ambiguity, particularly in face-to-face communication. He criticized how many organizations use long PowerPoint meetings for information sharing while handling uncertainty through digital messages. Don illustrated this with the frustration of call center scripts that cannot handle unique problems, explaining their concept of “huddles” versus “handoffs” in work design.
The discussion of visualizing work highlighted the particular challenges of knowledge work. Don explained that unlike manufacturing, where broken equipment is obvious, knowledge work problems remain hidden. People can be continuously interrupted and overloaded without visible signs. Nelson shared a striking example from Harley-Davidson where the average time to solve problems equaled the months remaining until product launch, regardless of when problems were discovered.
Don noted that while executives can easily draw organizational charts, they struggle to map how work actually flows through their organizations. The guests emphasized that simple visualization techniques can yield enormous gains in knowledge work because the dysfunction costs are typically hidden and accepted as normal.
Throughout the conversation, both guests stressed the importance of leaders staying connected to actual work rather than remaining distant from operational realities. They advocate for methods that make work visible and create structures that support both stability and continuous innovation.
For more information about Nelson Repenning and Don Kieffer’s work, visit ShiftGear.com
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Transforming Intel’s Culture Through Problem Solving with Melinda Manente
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Melinda Manente, Process Improvement Coach & Facilitator at GBMP Consulting Group, joins Jamie Flinchbaugh on the People Solve Problems podcast to share her extensive experience in creating transformational change within organizations. With over 30 years of experience at global Fortune 100 companies including Cisco, Parker Hannifin, Intel, and General Electric, Melinda brings valuable insights into developing problem-solving cultures that engage employees at all levels.
Melinda emphasizes that meaningful transformation requires both a clear vision and what she calls a “burning platform” – a compelling reason for change that motivates people to step out of their comfort zones. She explains how organizations can benefit from redefining what constitutes a problem, shifting from focusing solely on large, dramatic issues to addressing smaller, daily challenges. This perspective change allows companies to tap into their most valuable resource – their people – by making problem solving part of everyone’s daily job content.
Throughout the conversation, Melinda shares practical strategies for implementing simple yet effective problem-solving methods that showcase learning, build transparency, and foster team collaboration. She advocates for creating systems that encourage experimentation and rapid learning through a “fail fast” approach, allowing teams to iterate quickly and apply their learnings immediately. Her methodology balances the need for action with thoughtful reflection, creating a culture where problems become opportunities for growth rather than sources of stress.
A central theme in Melinda’s approach is how the principle of “Respect for People” serves as the foundation for effective problem-solving. She demonstrates how common lean tools like direct observation and 5S become significantly more impactful when implemented within a framework of genuine respect. She shares real-world examples of how this respect-centered approach has transformed organizations she’s worked with, creating sustainable change that continues long after formal improvement initiatives end.
The conversation concludes with Melinda’s insights on the “inside-out” approach to leading organizational change, emphasizing that transformational leaders must first transform themselves before they can effectively guide others. Jamie and Melinda discuss how this self-awareness and personal growth create the authenticity needed to inspire lasting change across an organization.
For listeners interested in learning more about Melinda Manente’s work on problem-solving and the Respect for People approach, they can visit the GBMP website at https://www.gbmp.org and explore the Respect for People Roadmap at https://www.gbmp.org/respect-for-people-road-map, or connect with her on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/melindamanente.
Lean Coffee Episode 4In Episode 4, Mark Graban and Jamie Flinchbaugh are joined by the hosts of the Just-in-Time Cafe podcast, Elisabeth Swan and Tracy O’Rourke. This is the second joint episode, the first being episode 45 of Lean Whiskey. In part, we celebrate the launch of Tracy and Elisabeth’s new book, the 2nd edition of The Problem-Solver’s Toolkit, which we discuss on the show.
We talk quite a bit about our respective daily routines, beginning with how coffee fits into our day. This includes peaceful time, walk time, time with family, and time for health. Coffee fits in many different ways. And once again, Jamie sounds like Paul Giamatti in the movie Sideways in his avoidance of Starbucks. We also share our personal routines that help us stay focused and productive. There are different flavors and tools, but there are definitely some common themes across the group that prioritizes our calendars and our to-do priorities over our email inbox.
In a meta discussion about podcasts during a podcast, we talk about the trend towards longer podcasts and video podcasts, as the NY Times covered. It is only a coincidence that this episode went a bit longer as well. We explore this trend, why it exists despite some contrary trends, and how we prefer consuming podcasts as well. We finish as always with our cultural shares, ranging from Charlie Brown to Brad Pitt.
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Getting the culture right is vital to lean. This video course is a more conceptual complement to the Lean Principles course. The Lean Principles course lays out 5 specific principles, whereas this course outlines the logic around why it’s so important to make your journey about principles and behaviors, whether they be your own or you adopt what I’ve already laid out. This is one of the earlier courses developed in the Learning Lab.
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The Evolution of Lean has taught us that leadership must transcend mere support to achieve true ownership. In this video, Jamie Flinchbaugh reveals why many improvement efforts fail by accepting simple “buy-in” rather than demanding genuine engagement, highlighting the critical difference between leadership that writes checks and attends kickoffs versus leadership that applies concepts and coaches others. Learn how deliberate engagement strategies create accountability at all organizational levels, the three critical success factors from hundreds of successful Lean transformations, and why regularly refreshing your roadmap based on actual progress ensures sustained momentum throughout your journey.
Dr. Greg Jacobson: From ER Doctor to Continuous Improvement CEO
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In this episode of People Solve Problems, host Jamie Flinchbaugh welcomes Dr. Greg Jacobson, CEO and Co-founder of KaiNexus, for an insightful conversation about the intersection of medical training, psychological safety, and continuous improvement culture.
Greg’s journey into the world of Lean and Kaizen began in 2004 when his department chairman handed him Masaaki Imai’s book “Kaizen” and said, “You think like this.” As an emergency medicine doctor, Greg was immediately struck by the realization that there was an entire discipline focused on improving systems. He recognized that healthcare had so many operational inefficiencies that applying these principles in the emergency department could yield tremendous results through solving basic problems and capturing low-hanging fruit.
The conversation explores how Greg’s medical background both helps and hinders systematic thinking about business problems. He explains that physicians are trained with a scientific mindset where every patient encounter resembles an experiment – gathering evidence, forming hypotheses, running tests, and evaluating outcomes. This mirrors the problem-solving methodology used in Lean thinking, making the transition natural for some medical professionals. However, the competitive nature required to succeed in medical school and residency can create fixed mindsets and reduce curiosity, as many doctors become accustomed to being the “alpha dog” who always has the right answers.
A significant portion of the discussion focuses on psychological safety and its critical role in enabling improvement. Greg defines psychological safety as “being rewarded for being vulnerable” – whether that’s admitting you don’t know something, raising concerns about broken processes, or challenging existing systems. Through his experience working in emergency departments across the United States and even New Zealand, he observed that departments where people felt safe to speak up consistently had better outcomes than those where the culture encouraged keeping quiet and just getting the job done.
Jamie and Greg explore how technology systems can actually enhance psychological safety by creating a buffer between individuals and problems. When issues are logged in a system rather than raised face-to-face, it shifts the dynamic from personal confrontation to collaborative problem-solving. The issue becomes the common enemy that everyone works together to address, rather than a source of interpersonal tension. Greg notes that rather than reducing human interaction, electronic systems actually increase communication by creating visibility and fostering engagement around improvement opportunities.
The conversation turns to habit science and its application to continuous improvement culture. Greg credits reading “The Power of Habit” by Charles Duhigg, “Atomic Habits” by James Clear, and “Tiny Habits” by BJ Fogg with transforming both his personal life and his understanding of organizational change. He explains how KaiNexus applies the habit loop concept – cue, routine, reward – to create interconnected behaviors across different organizational levels. The routine of one person becomes the trigger for another person’s habit, creating a web of positive behaviors that sustain improvement culture.
When asked about his personal habit transformation, Greg shares how he moved from being an inconsistent squash player who would “demolish his body” once or twice a week to someone who exercises daily. After tearing his ACL in his forties, he used habit science principles to change his identity and create sustainable physical activity routines.
Throughout the discussion, Greg emphasizes that KaiNexus is fundamentally about the human transformation that technology enables, not the technology itself. The platform’s value comes from people interacting with it in specific ways that foster continuous improvement behaviors across the organization.
For more information about Greg’s work, visit kainexus.com or connect with him on LinkedIn
Lean Principles from Hitchhiker’s Guide to Lean
Lean is born from how we think. Most efforts at lean transformation focus too much on only tools and projects, but it’s the principles and behaviors that separate excellent lean journeys from the rest. Jamie Flinchbaugh and Andy Carlino outlined 5 principles for lean thinking in the book The Hitchhiker’s Guide to Lean, and this video course walks you through these lean principles.
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Discover why Lean is born from how we think, not just tools and practices. Learn how shared principles create sustainable change, why focusing on behaviors drives real transformation, how connecting tools to principles makes them more powerful, where the five universal Lean principles apply throughout your organization, and why making Lean your own leads to lasting results.
Don’t assume and go observe directly. Structured observation beats random data collection—use frameworks to guide what you look for. Deep examination reveals opportunities others miss. Different mapping tools show system connections. Patient observation solves problems that quick fixes can’t touch.
Finding waste means nothing without immediate action. Systematic approaches turn scattered improvements into lasting organizational habits. The seven wastes give you both a framework and shared language across teams. Knowledge work waste differs from production waste—task-switching creates hidden inefficiencies that drain productivity. Eliminating waste frees resources to invest in your organization’s future growth.
Behaviors of Systematic Problem Solving
Deciding to solve problems is the first behavioral step that matters. Curiosity drives learning when knowledge gaps appear. Cross-functional collaboration beats individual problem-solving. Systematic approaches prevent jumping to conclusions. Match problem complexity to methodology to maximize resources. Five Whys works when you focus on actionable causes, not hitting a specific question count.
Establish High Agreement of Both What and How
Valuing shared methods over individual preferences creates organizational clarity. Establishing agreement is continuous, not a one-time document. Effective standardization involves those doing the work. Missing “how” agreements cause meeting confusion and failed execution. Specify standardization goals for better implementation. Clear distinctions between normal and abnormal conditions enable improvement.
Creating a Learning Organization
Learning drives all Lean principles. Learner mindsets beat knower mindsets for better decisions. Effective PDCA cycles check outcomes, not just task completion. After Action Reviews capture successes and failures through structured reflection. Proactive learning creates purposeful improvement opportunities. Integrating these principles into daily work makes Lean practices sustainable.